This conversation with Wild at Heart is about the place of suffering and breakthrough in our lives. Both can be found in scripture—both have a place in our lives. Yet, one is to be the major theme in our story, the other a minor theme. Sadly, in our post-modern culture, the minor theme has become the major theme. It feels much safer to talk about our suffering than it does to talk about breakthrough. We aren’t saying that all suffering can be ended in this life, but we will never know how much can be until we stop hopelessly yielding to things as they are. We must look to God for Life—and the breakthrough that comes as a result.